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Friday, April 13, 2007

Tech Link (Mobile): Overclocking Merom: The Dell XPS M1710

A new laptop has come to town, and brings with it an overclocking monster Merom processor (Conroe's mobile brother). And the cool thing about this processor, it has higher multi unlock. This is just so hot, I want this one so bad for my AOpen i975Xa-YDG. Check it out and join me with the drool, and kudos to ExtremeTech for the great article!



Dell XPS M1710 Review
April 12, 2007

By Loyd Case
Until recently, if you wanted to overclock your laptop, you needed one with a desktop CPU. Those were pretty common in the Pentium 4 days, but we've seen fewer of them since the advent of the mobile Core 2 Duo CPUs, originally code-named Merom. A few OEMs expose settings in their BIOS setups that allow you to tweak FSB speeds, but those are pretty rare, and the clock multiplier has remained locked.

Then Dell began shipping their high-end XPS M1710 mobile PC with something they call the "Core 2 Duo T7600G." The "G" is significant, because if you order one, you get a notebook with a multiplier unlocked CPU and the ability to overclock the XPS M1710 in the BIOS setup.


In its review of the XPS M1710, PC Magazine gave the original XPS M1710 4 out of 5 stars (equivalent to an 8 out of 10 here on ExtremeTech), and liked what they saw. We took essentially the same configuration but equipped with the clock-unlocked CPU.

The purpose here is to check out performance. Obviously battery life will be seriously degraded if you push the clock rate of the CPU to its maximum overclocked setting. So we didn't run any battery life tests, though we did check to see how the system handled using SpeedStep when overclocked.

Let's take a quick tour of the XPS M1710 before diving into the benchmark numbers. Continued... The XPS M1710 is the latest iteration of Dell's high-end gaming laptops, and includes a 17-inch display with a native resolution of 1920x1200 pixels, 2GB of DDR2/667 memory and a combo DVD+/-RW-and-Blu-ray drive.

As noted earlier, this particular XPS unit arrived with an Intel Core 2 Duo T7600G multiplier unlocked. Rounding out the system's capabilities is a mobile GeForce 7950

GTX with 512MB of video memory. Windows Vista is included with this system, loaded onto an 80GB, 7200RPM hard drive.

The XPS M1710 includes a plethora of connectors—with both DVI and analog VGA for monitor connections. Also included are four USB 2.0 ports on the back, two more on the left side and a 4-pin FireWire port on the right side. Two audio jacks—one stereo output and one input—are also available. A small slot accepts SD/MMC/Sony Memory Stick flash memory cards. The M1710 supports both wired (gigabit) and wireless (802.11b/g) networking. Continued... Now that we've had a brief look at the hardware, let's take a look at the area of interest in the BIOS setup—overclocking.

You press the F2 key to get into BIOS setup. There, you'll find a comprehensive BIOS setup program, that is, comprehensive for a system from a mainstream supplier like Dell. We're interested in the section under "Performance" labeled "CPU Overclock Support."

Here you can pick a CPU clock frequency ranging from the default (2.33GHz) all the way to 3.17GHz. What you're really doing with the slider is adjusting the CPU multiplier, ranging from the default 14x all the way to 19x.

It's pretty neat that you can tweak the clock frequency so easily, though as you do so, the power usage naturally goes up. We ran three sets of tests—one at the default 2.33Ghz, another at the maximum 3.17GHz and one at the fastest "quiet" setting, which turned out to be 2.83GHz (equating to a 17x multiplier.)

This approach has the advantage of simplicity. Someone trying to dip their toes in the overclocking waters can easily make tweaks. We actually were able to run the system at the full 3.17GHz, completing out performance tests. However, the top speed has some issues, which we'll discuss shortly.

The 2.83GHz speed was the fastest speed we could set in the BIOS setup without the system fans spinning up to full speed. At 3.17GHz, the system fans were quite noisy, and had that unpleasant, high-pitched whine often associated with small cooling fans. At 2.83GHz, the system was as quiet at idle as at 2.33GHz, and even running full bore, the fan noise only stepped up slightly.

The disadvantage with this approach is that you really won't see the best possible performance. The weakness in the hardware chain is the Intel mobile 945 chipset, which supports DDR2/667 memory at best. There are no tweaks in the BIOS setup for memory speeds, nor for FSB settings. All you can adjust is the CPU multiplier. This can create imbalances between the FSB and the memory clocks.

Now that we understand how Dell permits the system to be overclocked, let's take a look at the impact on performance. Continued... We ran only a pair of benchmarks—PCMark05 and 3DMark06. There were two reasons for this: First, we were running on Windows Vista, and benchmarking on Vista is considerably more time consuming than on Windows XP. You have to let the system "settle" for a half hour after a reboot. You also need to run several conditioning runs before an actual recorded benchmark run, because of Vista's capability to optimize for frequently run applications. We saw scores in 3DMark06 increase by more than 5% after several conditioning runs and a couple of reboots.

Given that and our desire to run at three different clock speeds, the number of performance tests we could run was limited. We ran these synthetic benchmarks because they often quickly expose either stability or performance issues. With that in mind, let's take a look at our results.

Windows Experience Scores
The WEI score didn't change, no matter the CPU clock frequency, since the bottleneck wasn't the CPU. The Windows Experience Score is always the lowest of the subsystem scores. In the case of the XPS M1710, the WEI score of 4.7 was bottlenecked by system memory, which also scored 4.7.

The CPU subsystem score "out of the box" was 5.2. Curiously, the CPU subsystem score for both 2.83GHz and 3.17GHz was 5.6, further demonstrating the limitation of pushing past 2.83GHz. But the real bottleneck in this system is the relatively slow memory. Continued... PCMark05 consists of a series of synthetic benchmark suites, each designed to test an individual subsystem, such as memory, processor, and hard drive. The test auto-detects which CPU you're using and loads dynamic libraries optimized for the processor under test for each function. So an Athlon 64 would run code tweaked to run best on its architecture, while a P4 running the same test would run different code optimized for that processor. Many of the tests are small enough to fit into the large L2 caches of modern processors, so those with higher clock speeds have an advantage. It's an idealized view of performance. In the real world, application optimizations can vary widely.

With PCMark05, we do see increases in the CPU score when we jack up the multiplier, although this results in diminishing returns as you increase the clock multiplier. It's also interesting to see how the performance scales in the memory tests as well even though we're not increasing the front-side bus clock or the memory speed. Continued... Though 3DMark06 is a synthetic benchmark, it's perhaps less "synthetic" than PCMark, since it tries to simulate what goes on inside a game engine. We show here both the standard 3DMark score and the results of both 3DMark CPU tests.

Here's where we run into an interesting anomaly: The scores at the highest clock speed for the standard test are barely faster than at 2.83GHz. The CPU scores are actually lower at 3.17GHz than at 2.83GHz. This behavior is repeatable. What's going on?

Even at idle, the system fans are spinning at nearly top speed when running the system at 3.17GHz. When the 3DMark06 CPU tests kicked in, the fans got even louder, yet the scores dropped. We believe that the Core 2 Duo CPU was throttling down at some stages of the benchmark, which of course will affect performance. Continued... We all know from experience that Core 2 CPUs—even the laptop variants—often have a lot of headroom to run at higher clock speeds. So it's no surprise that Intel is starting to dip its toes in the unlocked-mobile-CPU waters. Given the space constraints of even a beefy laptop like the XPS M1710, there are limits to the cooling solutions that can be built into a compact chassis. If you consider the potential heat and power issues with overclocking, this generally means people will run an overclocked M1710 on wall power and clock back to the standard frequency when running on battery power.

Read about Overclocking Core 2 Motherboards.

The limitation of Dell's approach—allowing only multiplier adjustments—permits only one type of overclocking. It would have been interesting to have the option of altering both the FSB speed and the clock multiplier. Even so, being restricted to DDR2/667 creates another performance bottleneck, which is exacerbated as you increase the CPU multiplier.

Note that buying the XPS M1710 with the T7600G Core 2 Duo processor will cost you an extra $275. Whether the added $275 for the privilege of overclocking your laptop is worth it to you is a personal choice. Given the overall system price of $4,375, though, that added $275 is a relatively small amount.

If you're willing to forego Blu-ray and live with Windows Vista Home Premium instead of Vista Ultimate Edition, you can buy the system for about a thousand bucks less—$3,379—and still get the T7600G. That may be a more viable option for most users.

Dell and Intel should be lauded for allowing even limited overclocking. Big notebook systems like the XPS M1710 tend to get used mostly as desktop replacements, as well as LAN parties, so being connected to wall power is fairly common. We'd certainly be happy to run one of these systems at 2.83GHz all day long.


Source:Overclocking Merom: The Dell XPS M1710

Tuesday, September 19, 2006

Tech Link (Platform): Dell XPS 410: Core 2 Duo for the Masses

AMDTech has an article about Dell*'s mainstream PC. While I am not sure if a price of $800 is mainstream, as far as branded PC go, I guess I am just forced to agree as I don't have any visibility of pricing among different brands. They put it thru some hoops and barrage of tests and the platform came out with flying colors (at least, that's what I understand). Give this review a go if you are pondering on whether to get branded or go DIY. Expand for more..



Final Thoughts
As we said in the introduction, Dell is a big company that a lot of people love to hate. As with any large company that has many products, Dell has certainly had their fair share of lemons, but they have also had a few standout products. Right now, we would argue that it's extremely difficult to find a better LCD than what Dell offers, for example. Similar sure, but better and/or cheaper is a lot harder to come by. So how does the XPS 410 compare to the competition?

As an overall out-of-the-box experience, the system was a real pleasure to use. It could be set up in minutes, it's fast, quiet, and it offers just about everything you could want in a modern high-end computer. It is certainly possible to surpass it in performance, features, or price. It is much more difficult to beat the XPS 410 in all of those areas while also offering high-quality customer service and support. With base models starting at under $1000, the XPS 410 is likely to be very popular. As with any computer system, there are still minor flaws, but most of these can be overlooked.

The chassis design does just about everything right, and that's one area where we have absolutely no complaints. Most of our complaints center around component selections and prices. We would like to see slightly faster memory (DDR2-800) as an upgrade option, for example. It would also be nice to have the option to upgrade to a more powerful PSU, and a few more options on the graphics card front wouldn't hurt. We would like to see Dell integrate a few more features directly onto the motherboard in order to free up some expansion slots. There's really no reason for a system in this price range not to have FireWire ports. We would rather see every system cost an extra $10 than to be faced with the decision of either spending $30 on a PCI FireWire card or going without. Not everyone is going to need FireWire support, but if the XPS 410 is truly a multimedia computer, then FireWire should not be optional. Besides, with the elimination of legacy devices, there is a large unused block on the I/O plate that could be filled with a few extras. External SATA would be another good addition, for example.

Some people have had bad experiences with Dell, especially when it comes to customer support. We can't say how well they handle all customer calls, but during our testing and evaluation period all of our interaction with the support department went very well. The system as a whole was extremely stable, and other than an outdated driver that caused periodic instability with one particular game, we didn't experience a single crash throughout weeks of stress testing and benchmarking. If you don't care about getting the fastest computer on the block but just want something that's reasonably fast, very reliable, and you would like some good customer service and support, the Dell XPS 410 looks like a real winner.

Our one minor complaint would have to be price, but we're speaking specifically about the configuration we were sent for evaluation. If you're actually interested in purchasing an XPS 410 and would like our recommendation as to the best component selection for a reasonable price, most of what we were sent for review is a good place to start. One area where you can cut performance a little without too much of an impact on subjective performance is the processor. Core 2 Duo is typically so fast that most people simply don't need anything more than the base model. If you want to pay $50 to upgrade to the E6400, that's a reasonable choice, but anything beyond that and you get greatly diminished return on your investment. Cutting the graphics card to the 7900 GS is also a good compromise, particularly for more casual gamers, and non-gamers should be fine with the default X1300 Pro.

One area where you can cut the price a lot is the LCD, but here we would advise you to go all-out and splurge on the best monitor you can afford. $800 is a lot of money to pay for just a display, but remember that the display is part of the computer you're going to see the most, and for some things bigger is better. For more casual family computer use, or perhaps for systems where the XPS 410 is going to be located near the TV and used as an HTPC, sticking with the included 19 inch monitor won't present any real problems.

So what don't you get with the XPS 410? Enthusiast level features and performance. You won't get overclocking, multiple GPUs, or the fastest CPUs and GPUs. The power supply could prove to be a limiting factor in the future if you want to upgrade to some of the upcoming graphics cards, but we will have to wait and see before we can render a definitive verdict in that regard. For the hard-core hardware junkies, you can certainly get equal to or better performance for less money than Dell is charging. On the other hand, if you simply want a prebuilt system that is easy enough for your parents or grandparents to set up, and you would rather have someone else provide technical support, the Dell XPS 410 is presently one of the best choices on the market. Not everyone needs the equivalent of a turbocharged street racer, and the XPS 410 represents a combination of style, performance, features, reliability, and support that should make a lot of more casual users happy.


Source:Dell XPS 410: Core 2 Duo for the Masses

Wednesday, September 06, 2006

Tech Link (Platform): Dell XPS 700 - reviewed, dissected

The folks over at bit-tech just got their hands on with a new Dell* XPS 700 gaming system. And they didn't just test drive it, they rip it open and dissected the platform. It was a great showing of images and pics of the innards. Give them a visit to check out the full review, expand for more.



Dell created something of a storm when it unveiled its new range of gaming machines back at E3 this year (check our our report from the show). After some problems and delays with production, it is finally shipping systems to buyers, and we got our hands on one of the first out of the doors.

What makes this such an interesting product (aside from the Core 2 Duo chip and the fantastic styling) is that it has an NVIDIA nForce 590 chipset - which currently, NVIDIA says isn't released. We've seen the 570 hit Intel, but not SLI as of yet - well, Dell appears to have boards up and running.


Source:Dell XPS 700 - reviewed, dissected

Monday, May 15, 2006

Tech Link (Industry): Dell’s XPS Renegade 700 Features Core Duo 2, Quad SLI

Recently, I posted that the previous generation Dell* XPS* Renegade gaming system is already sold out, yep, all of them are out of Dell's warehouse and onto the home of those lucky FanBoyz who crave for power and enjoys the first ever overclocked Intel processor and Quad-SLI.

Now, Dell* is back with a vengeance and this time, they really are up to it to make the best gaming platform on the face of the Earth. XBit-Labs reported that the system shown at the recent E3 exhibition has an Intel Core 2 Duo processor in it. OMIGOSH! I can't imagine those crazy overclocers willing to spend the dough just to be the first to get these new processors. Already, I can feel the drool, reaching thru my spines.

So back to the news, check out XBitLabs for more info.

If you are like me, then you can definitely take the pimping from Dell, check it out now.

Monday, May 01, 2006

Tech Link (Industry): Dell Sells out of $10 000 Gaming Computers.

Wow, Intel® Pentium® Extreme Edition dual-core processor overclocked to 4.26GHz and 2GB of PC2-5400 (667MHz) with Quad SLI just ran out of stocks, yep, emptied, nada, cleared, all sold out.


Dell Inc., the world’s largest maker of personal computers, said Tuesday it has sold all its limited edition XPS 600 Renegade systems that packed the top-of-the range offerings from Intel Corp., Nvidia Corp., innovative physics accelerators from Ageia and cost around $10 000.

“We sold out [Dell XPS 600 Renegade systems] in 3 days. The XPS 600 Renegade was a great example of Dell’s ability to deliver cutting edge technologies to gamers, and we’re committed to making these technologies – such as physics accelerators and quad SLI – more broadly available over time,” said Liem Nguyen, a spokesman for Dell.

The Dell XPS 600 Renegade was equipped with Intel Pentium Extreme Edition dual-core processor overclocked to 4.26GHz, 2GB of PC2-5400 (667MHz) memory, specially designed graphics cards each carrying two NVIDIA GeForce 7900 graphics processors with 512MB of memory per chip (2GB in total), Western Digital Raptor hard disk drives, Ageia PhysX accelerator for physics effects and so on. Dell sold the system for roughly $10 000, an unprecedented price of a desktop PC for gaming.

Dell did not disclose how many systems featuring overclocked Pentium Extreme Edition processor as well as Nvidia’s quad SLI technology it has sold, however, it emphasized, that the systems were custom-painted and came with autograph of Michael Dell, the founder of the company.

Nvidia quad SLI technology uses special GeForce 7900 GX2 graphics cards, each of which has two GeForce 7900-series graphics processors. Quad SLI allows to turn on 32x antialiasing, the maximum level possible today, or to play the latest games in 2560x1600 resolution. Even though quad SLI may not mean the highest performance possible, users buying systems featuring four GeForce 7900 GPUs may expect better graphics quality than those who use one or two graphics cards.


Source:XBitLabs

Friday, January 06, 2006

Tech Link (System): NVIDIA and Dell Bring Quad SLI Power to Life

Oh my, another drool factor. This has just got to be the coolest Dell PC I have ever laid my eyes on. I mean, look at those flaming designs.

Yes you read that right

Today at the Consumer Electronics Show, Michael Dell unveiled a new project that he and the gang at NVIDIA have teamed up on that until right this minute, no one had heard a peep about in the industry.

NVIDIA is introducing a new video card with TWO 7800 GTX 512 GPUs on it with two PCBs. Oh, and these new cards will sport 1 GB of total memory as well.


Source: PCPer